Mr. Saltwater Tank TV Friday AM Quick Tip #51: The Basement Needs Cleaning

by Mark Callahan · 30 comments

in Reef Enthusiast,Reef Junkie,Tank Dabbler

You can put these guys downstairs too.

 

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Will October 21, 2011 at 8:53 am

Hey Mark,
Should it be said, the type of snails in the fuge should not be the type that bury themselves if you have a deep sea bed (DSB) in order not to disturb the sand?
Thanks, keep up the good work!

Beau October 21, 2011 at 8:55 am

Simple tip that I really never thought of… Thanks and it’s time to move some buddies down to the basement

corocora October 21, 2011 at 12:19 pm

Mark,
What is typically the reason for snail die-off? Landing on their backs, not enough food, bad water….what? Or is this just naturally to be expected? My 12 Gal. tank is clean and algae free with only a conch, 3 nassarius, 2 hermits and 4 Astreas. This after about 6 margaritas recently went to snail heaven. Should I replace them, or let the algae presence, or lack of, dictate how big the crew should be?

Grant Caldwell October 21, 2011 at 2:06 pm

Mark,

Can you put a CUC in a Berlin style sump or only refuge? In my sump I have LR instead of bio balls, if it matters?

Also, can you put CUC in the return?

Thanks,
Grant

myfirstnano October 21, 2011 at 3:54 pm

Hey Mark,

I just wanted to say I enjoy all your tips as I am new and just started my first nano tank and any tips and tricks are appreciated, so my point is thanks for making your videos, I don’t know why they get so many dislikes? I like the help!

Thanks

Tommy October 21, 2011 at 9:11 pm

Mark,
I have about 100 narius snails in my 55 gallon tank and they keep everything spotless! I love them for that but i have no sand bed in my sump, should i still put them down there? will the have enough food or die off or climb out?

Mad Hatter Reef October 21, 2011 at 9:14 pm

For My aquariums I keep 1 hermit crab or snail per gallon of aquarium. Tends to work for me.

Tony October 22, 2011 at 12:21 am

My sump/fuge is the jailhouse for aggressive hermits. Also I have 2 long spined urchins in the sump portion. They eat every stray flake of food, plus keep the glass spotless!

Mark Callahan October 22, 2011 at 2:47 pm

that’s funny Tony as I do the same thing with emerald crabs that go rouge – down to the sump they go.

Mark Callahan October 22, 2011 at 2:48 pm

Tommy…the nasarius snails burrow into the sand so if you have no sand in your fuge, don’t put any in there!

Mark Callahan October 22, 2011 at 2:50 pm

Grant…even if you have only LR or LR rubble in your fuge, you can still put hermits in there. They’ll eat whatever comes their way. I would recommend rotating them out with crabs in your main tank to make sure they get enough food.

Mark Callahan October 22, 2011 at 2:52 pm

corocora…snails die for all kinds of reasons including the ones you mentioned. Certain types of snails can right themselves if they fall on their backs, but a lot can’t so unless you turn them over, they’ll die.

If your tank has no algae, then I’d hold off on the snails until you see algae popping up. They’ll need something to eat.

Grant Caldwell October 22, 2011 at 8:31 pm

Mark, hermits only or snails too? Can anything go in the over-flow?

Brady October 23, 2011 at 8:52 am

This is a great tip, however I would not put them in your sump when you have a external pump runnning. They will eventually find their way to that pump, get sucked up, and break your impeller or clog your pipe.

Martin Johnson October 24, 2011 at 3:21 am

Mark,
Came across your website via YouTube and having kept a marine tank for the past 7 years I must say you advice is just about the best and most practical I have seen anywhere. There’s always more to lean and I have found seveal of your tips very useful.
Thanks again,
Martin

Martin Johnson October 24, 2011 at 3:24 am

Er, I meant learn not lean and several not seveal – must read before I post!

james brown October 24, 2011 at 3:48 pm

Mark,

I have a 230 gal tank. how thick should the sand base be. and when i do a water change should i clean the gravel. ?

The Berrier's Reef October 24, 2011 at 9:00 pm

Hey Mark, kinda an off topic question but have u ever had your aqua lifter pump syphon and pour tons of ro/di water into your tank, or are they pretty reliable?
thanks

Grant Caldwell October 25, 2011 at 8:10 am

James, from my understanding you want about a pound of sand per gallon, like you would have a pound per gallon of live rock. This equates to roughly two inches deep or one inch above the bottom trim of your tank.

For example, I have 80lbs of live sand in my 60 gal and its about a 1.25 inches above the bottom trim. For what’s called a “deep sand bed” you want roughly 5-6 inches total. You can research “deep sand bed” to see if that’s what you want.

I’m sure there are other opinions on this topic, so if there are I’m sure they’re soon to follow. I hope this helps.

Wes October 25, 2011 at 3:32 pm

Aqua Lifter pumps use a diaphram so they can’t siphon back. I use one on my overflow box (tank not drilled) to keep bubbles out of the top so that it never looses siphon. Below whisper quiet. Great little pump.

Mark Callahan October 25, 2011 at 3:45 pm

Berrier’s reef. I used to use an Aqua Lifter pump until it started syphoning into my tank. Granted it was a slow drip, it would still syphon. Therefore I dropped the Aqua lifter and went to the bulk reef supply 50mL/min pump.

Mark Callahan October 25, 2011 at 3:45 pm

Wes…please see my reply to Berrier’s question.

The Berrier's Reef October 25, 2011 at 8:54 pm

Thank you soo much Mark, thats what i suspected, i was about to start using kalk, but i thought it was syphoning because of all the extra water i came home to somedays, if i were to stick with this pump… kalk overdose, and everything is dead. You could have just saved my entire tank. thank you.

The Berrier's Reef October 25, 2011 at 8:58 pm

Woah, thats too expensive for me right now. Any other good pumps that won’t syphon water into your tank?

Mark Callahan October 25, 2011 at 8:59 pm

What you described happened to me except I work from home and I saw my pH creeping up when the ATO wasn’t running and my halides weren’t on. Luckily I fixed the issue before a major disaster happened.

The Berrier's Reef October 25, 2011 at 9:02 pm

Good, that would be bad if it did happen to your tank. I did some research and found the tunze osmolator pump is reliable and wont syphon, what do u think? Also, thanks for taking the time out of your day to reply to our questions, it truly means a lot. :)

The Reefuge October 26, 2011 at 2:38 am

Good read, thanks a lot :)

Wes October 27, 2011 at 9:06 pm

I stand corrected. I still find it hard to believe that it would given the design. I wonder if the diaphram in your pump had a crack or pin hole and that allowed it to siphon. Things that make you go hhhmmmm!

ch May 14, 2012 at 1:26 pm

Mark/
Watched most of your programmes on youtube .Super helpful information thanks !Great to see someone so into their hobby !.
Getting more into my brackish tanks now but alot of info can be used from here in my new tank .Im doing a dsb on my new Brackish Tank with scats monos which could go full marine when adult if i choose? .
Do i have to have lights on the sump if only a dsb? No plants?
Thanks
Chris

Thanks
chris Essex (uk)

Grant May 15, 2012 at 9:28 am

No. Lights are for algae.

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